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Wallow Fire starters could face millions in restitution

Posted: Monday, October 8, 2012 5:00 am | Updated: 7:29 am, Mon Oct 8, 2012.

The two cousins who started the 2011 Wallow Fire could owe over $3 million in restitution, according to a joint motion filed Sept. 28.

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  • mikethegreat posted at 5:53 pm on Fri, Oct 5, 2012.

    mikethegreat Posts: 41

    What a waste of time. I was a victim of the fire but I realize that these boys did not purposely set the fire. I really doubt whether they have any money for restitution and making them responsible for the costs is just illogical. Let them get on with their lives as we all have. My insurance company was more than fair and we are learning to live with the new, charred landscape.

  • JulieDunn posted at 12:00 pm on Mon, Oct 8, 2012.

    JulieDunn Posts: 5

    Really?! These boys could have fled the scene and never been caught but they did the right thing and went to the nearest authority to report it. Lets put the blame where it's deserved, with those who fear the loss of turist dollars by banning campfires on questionable wind days. High winds had been forcast for that weekend. It happens that we were out camping in a different area of the mountains that same weekend and one night when the wind felt like it was going to knock over our RV, through the trees about a quarter mile away I saw a campfire burning. Assuming that fires must surely be banned on such a windy weekend I called the forest service to report it and was told campfires were ok. I was flabergasted. Those of us who have lived up here since before the rodeo-chedeski know better than to start a fire under such conditions but these low lander turists know a lot less both about when to start a fire or how to manage a fire yet we have our local auothorities telling them to go ahead and start fires in winds that had to be at least 40 gusting to 60.

  • devilishkatlyn posted at 3:41 pm on Mon, Oct 8, 2012.

    devilishkatlyn Posts: 181

    If anyone sees restitution funds from this settlement, I'll be suprised. I doubt either one of them had much $$ in the first place, and if they did have some, it's probably eaten up in attorneys fees. You can probably plan on getting a check for $10 for the next 100 years, or they'll file bankruptcy and walk away from even that.

  • looking4trth posted at 7:15 pm on Tue, Dec 25, 2012.

    looking4trth Posts: 3

    You can't claim a restitution judgment on a bankruptcy petition.

    I too am a resident of Springerville and was a victim of the fire.
    According to the previous comments it's OK to be irresponsible and burn down 538,000 acres of land, as long as you go report it as soon as you realize it's burning out of control? Wow!
    I agree with "JulieDunn;" about placing blame where it belongs. Here's my example of the kind of greed she's referring to; The officials were asked why the fire chemicals were not dropped on the fire, "Because the cost was prohibitive, it costs $53,000 for one load of the chemicals." OK, you do the math. BTW, just months before the fire the town of Springerville purchased some very pricey new law enforcement vehicles. I wonder if they used the same criteria to authorize that purchase!![sneaky] She's also correct about the "flat-landers" coming up here, to our home, and acting like uneducated idiots. It shouldn't have mattered if the Forest Service said fires were OK; anyone in there right mind wouldn't start a fire with the winds gusting at 60mph, even a flat-lander.
    I think those "boys," don't you mean MEN? Got off far too easy. 48 hours in jail? If these "boys" had actually "done the right thing," they wouldn't have started a campfire in the first place!!
    Anyone remember the 8-year-old Apache County pinned a murder on? Where was all this public support for that "boy.?"


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