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Questions about school districts

Posted: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 5:00 am

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  • TN4994 posted at 11:15 am on Tue, Oct 2, 2012.

    TN4994 Posts: 3002

    Mr. Rouleau, I don't know for sure, but back in 1969, or the early 70's the US Supreme court ruled on school districts not being equal in dispensing education. That is, the poor vs. rich school districts. Perhaps it's the way the ruling is interpreted here. Personal known example.
    Baltimore City, Maryland is separate from Baltimore County, and is considered its on county. Someone sued the educational system and we had children from the county bused into the city and the city to the county. Other counties soon were busing from one to another, busing only stopped at the state lines and D.C. But I understand that has since been overlooked in several states busing from one to another..

  • Marc-V-Ridenour posted at 12:54 pm on Tue, Oct 2, 2012.

    Marc-V-Ridenour Posts: 355

    Speaking as a former inmate of the public “screwel” system, I state that I did far more learning at the public library than the public “screwel” system. What I lkearned in the "screwel" I learned IN SPITE OF, rather than BEACUSE OF, the "screwel" system. I think we could divert half of the money we are pouring down the “screwel” system rat-holes into the public libraries, and it would not harm the students, and would, in fact, improve their learning curves!

  • JR posted at 8:20 pm on Tue, Oct 2, 2012.

    JR Posts: 2

    The local school districts have a program called NAVIT. It's a replacement for the vocational program where they ship students to NPC, most likely this accounts for why you're seeing interloping buses. Almost all of our local districts participate in the NAVIT program. Sequoia uses the same bus program as Snowflake, Students First. When a Sequoia bus breaks down, that's where the replacement goes. So you might see a Snowflake bus dropping off a Sequoia student. Working in a local school district for the last 10 years, I can tell you that concern expressed for how money is being spent on transportation is concern not well expressed. There are innumerable amounts of checks and balances and audits performed every year, sometimes multiple times per year. My former business manager watched things like a hawk, caught and corrected problems as they were happening. Now for wandering students in to different districts, that's fine and legal, each district verifies that there is an adequate count so the trips made out to pick up the students are worth the costs.

  • Whiplash Willy posted at 8:22 pm on Tue, Oct 2, 2012.

    Whiplash Willy Posts: 1261

    Oh boy the public libraries are going down hill too.

  • wes alderson posted at 8:52 pm on Tue, Oct 2, 2012.

    wes alderson Posts: 9935


    You are right - as an afterghought during racial desegation, we passed through an era of what was known as "defacto segregation" which meant that even though no school was for "whites only" the fact that neighborhoods were mainly divided into black and white and thus in fact, the schools were still segregated. This caused the Federal Courts to order bussing as a remedy.

    I remember all the arguing in LA USD about that and how much it cost.

    This was the basis by which the same bussing principles spread to fiscal defadto secretation, such as what you are talking about here.

    I have no idea as to whether this is the reason here in the White Mountains . . . . but I wanted to pitch in those historical facts for the sake of the discussion.


  • mmills98 posted at 10:10 pm on Tue, Oct 2, 2012.

    mmills98 Posts: 3

    Mr. Rouleau,
    You are also seeing the various district buses because some areas like Concho and Vernon do not offer a high school, therefore our high school age children are taken to the school they have enrolled in.

  • un-worldly101 posted at 12:51 pm on Wed, Oct 3, 2012.

    un-worldly101 Posts: 25

    Thank you mmills98
    So many answers and only one correct.

  • Heber-Overgaard Schools posted at 11:01 am on Thu, Oct 4, 2012.

    Heber-Overgaard Schools Posts: 4

    Mr. Rouleau:

    I was notified of your letter to the editor and felt that after reading it, I should respond. Speaking for the Heber-Overgaard School District, your assumptions are incorrect. Our students are involved in the NAVIT (Northern Arizona Vocational Institute of Technology) program, and as a result they ride the bus to NPC (Northland Pioneer College) each day. Juniors and Seniors in high school from eleven surrounding school districts make up this voter approved vocational district. Our students have the opportunity to not only graduate from high school but to simultaneously exit NAVIT with a two year certificate in a variety of areas.

    May I suggest that we contact the specific entity (school district in this case) and ask for information before we "assume" and then make comments in an editorial? Sure seems that a lot of incorrect info and bad feelings could be avoided.

  • jmljwest posted at 9:45 am on Sun, Oct 7, 2012.

    jmljwest Posts: 8

    I am a mother of a child in the Show Low School district as well as an alumni of the Snowflake School district. Several of the responses are very correct. There are students being bused to NAVIT or attending a High School because their school does not have one. There are always many reasons for different school districts buses being driven around other communities. When I was in school, there were times that we would travel to other schools for different types of programs, such as band concerts, sports, etc. Please investigate your concerns before complaining.

  • wes alderson posted at 4:43 pm on Sun, Oct 7, 2012.

    wes alderson Posts: 9935

    I apologogize to Mr. Rouleua and to the Heber-Obergaard School districts. The idea of NVIT enalbing kids to get both the collect AA certificate and their high school diploma at the same time, based on merrir, is excellent!


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