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WMI needs to enforce its own rules

Posted: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 5:00 am

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  • ACIPRA posted at 6:36 am on Tue, Oct 2, 2012.

    ACIPRA Posts: 1014

    Rules are for us not them. Just like in Apache County the rules are for the lesser people not the higher ups.

    If this newspaper wanted to help it subscribers and readers they would require all comments be posted by those whom have a real name on thier paid account. That way those violating the RULES could be found out and shown. And since so many violators are Apache County employees it would show a misuseof public resources to post ugly comments.

  • Russ_in_WML posted at 6:41 am on Tue, Oct 2, 2012.

    Russ_in_WML Posts: 1461

    Sue Dingham

    I see more insults coming from your side of the fence than from the right side. But we can dish it out right back at ya! The message you have to offer stinks.

  • wes alderson posted at 11:58 am on Tue, Oct 2, 2012.

    wes alderson Posts: 9245

    I agree with Russ and also with Sue Bingham. I agree that those who write letters and those who post replies should simply live by the rules.

    Currently, both sides of the Liberal-Conservative divide are calling names instead of sticking to fact, opinion, and logic.

    The parallel I draw in my mind is to pretend that my conversation is part of a formal gathering for some celebration in a friend's home. If we were at that sort of event, I doubt very much that any of us would insult each other face to face.

    Can we keep that in mind?

  • ArizAl posted at 12:04 pm on Tue, Oct 2, 2012.

    ArizAl Posts: 4032

    Puss-in-WML, you need to recognize that facts are not insults. It is when you right wing lemmings are confronted with facts that you panic and revert to insults.

    Sue, your posts and letters are always spot on and never offensive, keep up the good work.

  • Camulos posted at 12:11 pm on Tue, Oct 2, 2012.

    Camulos Posts: 1339

    I am more equal than you, so therefore you must stop calling names, but I may continue.


  • Marc-V-Ridenour posted at 12:47 pm on Tue, Oct 2, 2012.

    Marc-V-Ridenour Posts: 313

    Oh well...

  • wes alderson posted at 8:44 pm on Tue, Oct 2, 2012.

    wes alderson Posts: 9245

    Common, Al, and everybody. Sue Bingham's letter is right on target. Why bother to have rules if nobody follows them?

    In fact, I am please to see that WMI is indeed enforcing the Good Manners Rule. I have now seen people on both the right and the left, have their posts deleted. And who really knows? Maybe a moratorium on their new posts?

    Anyhow, I agree with al, that facts are not insults. What is an insutl is when somebody sites a fact and then calls you a dummy because you don't agree.

  • ArizAl posted at 6:38 am on Wed, Oct 3, 2012.

    ArizAl Posts: 4032

    Wes, I agree with you, Sue is a very nice and well educated person that has shown that she does not need to insult anyone to get a valid point across in her opinions.

    It's too bad those from the other side of the political spectrum take offense even at her benign letter appealing for civility.

  • Rick Slo Low posted at 7:24 am on Wed, Oct 3, 2012.

    Rick Slo Low Posts: 1369

    Wes a good question for Washington.

  • wes alderson posted at 10:11 am on Wed, Oct 3, 2012.

    wes alderson Posts: 9245

    [beam] Al, the funny thing is, that a couple of conservatives (including me) have sent letters very similar to Sue's about observing civility in everybody's posts, and we have been cussed out by members on the left side of the spectrum.

    What's weird is that this is so closely related to a kid's football game where the game only workds if both sides obey the rules.


  • ArizAl posted at 5:12 pm on Wed, Oct 3, 2012.

    ArizAl Posts: 4032

    Wes, let eveybody post what they want as long as there's no cussing. Politics is not a game for the weak and besides it brings up the rating for WMI. I have seen your share of name calling and taking offense when I refer to a political candidate as a Republican....Duhh, Wes, they are Republicans or Democrats and to refer to their association with a party is not a sign of shame but one of pride. So I never understood why you always complained about the use of the partys. Actually, I did that's why I did it more.[wink]

  • wes alderson posted at 12:11 am on Thu, Oct 4, 2012.

    wes alderson Posts: 9245

    I sort of agree with you, Al. After all, i have no official status with WMI. I simply enjoy the fact that they do not charge any of us to use this blog site to exchange useful inormation. But in view of their generostity, I always cringe when I see confrontive language used in these sites.

    Yes, up til about a year ago, I did my share of name calling. I toned that waaaaay when I sat down one Sunday after Church and thought about what was truly important, and what was not.

    One thing that I dislike is any comment that either Pary is all bad and the other is all good. That is where you and I tend to confront each other.

    But, hey, I'm just going to keep on keeping on as peacefully as I can and I wish you well.

  • Whiplash Willy posted at 8:26 am on Thu, Oct 4, 2012.

    Whiplash Willy Posts: 817

    What is your definition of insulting or derogatory language?Can you show us any dictionary which defines which language is not politically correct? How many words in the english language have multiple meanings?Please don't be niggling

  • wes alderson posted at 6:49 pm on Fri, Oct 5, 2012.

    wes alderson Posts: 9245

    Well . . . . Willy,

    If someobody says I am brainless, or an idiot, or an &#$^$%$, then that is abusive.

    If somebody says, "if you believe Obama, then you are a idiot," or if you think Romeny won the debate you are a fool," then that too is abusive.

    Bland is good. we can state facts and logic and let the readers decide who makes the most sense, without the sesaoning of attack language.

  • jillsplace posted at 12:41 pm on Mon, Oct 8, 2012.

    jillsplace Posts: 103

    This late in the game I doubt anything, anyone says on here will change anyone's mind on who they are voting for. Opinions are like rear ends....everybody has one. If you say something as a statement of fact..".so and so is uneducated and a fool", that is one thing. If you say " in my opinion, so and so is an uneducated fool", then that is something else. The first statement, if proven untrue, ( the person is educated) then it could be slanderous. The latter is not offered as a fact, just an opinion. Let us not "defecate" on freedom of speech too much here. The rules as they are seem logical to me. I don't see that Democrap or Libtard , are really that bad and I am a democrat! As for "ism", rule, we can say Mormonism, can we say Romneyism?


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