A response to Lorinda Paca's letter titled "Its Not About You"....

Did you know that the "leaky or shedding" vaccine is causing the variant? It's known science that vaccines cause variants. Hence why the vaccinated carry a higher viral load (in their nose) than the unvaccinated. The vaccine does not stop transmission, which makes it "leaky", and since that occurs, the virus must mutate or create a variant to survive. Here is a scientific study that proves this: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4516275/

Did you know that not everyone is being advised by their doctor to get the vaccine because of preexisting medical conditions that they have. You can scream all you want that YOU want everyone to get vaccinated, but honey you are nobody that one will listen to when their doctor has advised them NOT to get the shot.

Did you know that people that contracted the original virus last year or earlier this year have developed natural immunity and will have antibodies for a lifetime. (https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01442-9) Why would someone who has natural antibodies that will last them a lifetime take a shot that weakens those antibodies and cause them to catch the virus and variants in the future. You are sounding very ignorant when you scream that everyone needs to get vaccinated to get back to normal.

Did you know that masks don't work to stop the spread because it is spread through aerosols that are smaller than the fabric weaves of a cloth and surgical masks. Did you know that prolonged mask wearing actually causes more damage to the body? (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33254499/) Now you are sounding cold-hearted when you scream that everyone should wear a mask.

Did you know that social distancing is actually counterproductive when you are trying to achieve herd immunity because the only way to get rid of a virus is to achieve herd immunity where the virus hits a wall, per se, and can't reproduce and infect. Now you sound ignorant to say to EVERYONE that they must social distance to fight this virus.

Did you know that the number of deaths have dropped dramatically because this new variant isn't as deadly as the original virus, although it seems to have a higher transmission rate. So you "scaring" people by claiming there will be more dead bodies everywhere, is childish.

For those that share Lorinda's point of view, I say to you, turn off the news and join rational, science-based reality and leave the fear behind. Recently a local doctor wrote in agreement with Lorinda and I have to ask does he not understand science and that every patient is different and have different medical needs? Makes me question is ability to treat individual patients.

Tracy Lockheart,

Springerville

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Justsayin141

Ok. I am just going to take the first paragraph. This paragraph explains why the vaccinated people are still wearing masks. Bottom line we should be staying away from eachother as much as possible. That's why you find that vaccinated people aren't out and about. We get it.

2linden

TL - I am shocked that the federal government hasn’t put you in charge of our nation’s response to the pandemic. Seems that you know everything and have an answer to it all. Just saying

Justsayin141

TL - I am not sure who you are directing your comments to when you say things such as "try not to sound ignorant" but why don't you try not sounding ignorant and tell us how you know that covid antibodies from the first covid protects you from the fourth mutation of the covid virus. Try to do it without Google this time and run it thru your brain first don't just receive in one ear and spit it directly out of your mouth. Try it.

ronzim

This author presents us with a clinic on pseudo-science at its most egregious extent. She lists valid studies and states conclusions which are debunked falsehoods. Her falsehoods are not even her own. I know where these false comments originate - with the Joe Rogan show.

First, “https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4516275/”. The title of this study is “Imperfect Vaccination Can Enhance the Transmission of Highly Virulent Pathogens.” Here is the response of the scientist who authored the study, “Joe Rogan is getting this completely wrong,” says Andrew Read, professor of biology and entomology at Pennsylvania State. “He's taking very careful work about evolutionary scenarios of the future, and from that, erroneously concluding that people should not be vaccinated now.” Rogan quotes a line from the paper’s abstract out of context: “Vaccines that keep hosts alive but still allow transmission could thus allow very virulent strains to circulate in a population.”

“We're talking a very different virus and very different vaccines. The details in biology really matter a lot. The chicken vaccines we worked with, the first-generation vaccine, definitely reduced disease, severity and death.” But unlike the COVID mRNA vaccines, the chicken vaccine “didn't stop transmission at all.” And this is one of the key differences between what was being studied in the quoted paper and the current situation with the global pandemic. “Those [vaccinated] chickens just kept churning out the virus for weeks and weeks and weeks.” Again, this is a key difference. “Mutations can occur anytime the [virus] replicates. So the more replication, the more variants are generated. At the moment, the vast majority of the replication is happening in unvaccinated people. You can tell that because the majority of cases in the hospital are unvaccinated individuals. That is where the evolutionary action is happening at the moment.”

Second, the comments about doctors’ advice is a strawman. No one is suggesting that anyone should ignore their doctor’s advice in this matter, unless it is contrary to established science.

Third, (https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01442-9) shows only that survivors of the virus generate antibodies after the virus has been cleansed from the body. These are low level antibodies, and their level plunges soon after the virus has cleared but remain barely detectable for the 11 months or so covered in the study. The researcher says, “What’s not clear is what antibody levels will look like in the long term and whether they offer any protection, Ahmed adds. “We’re early in the game. We’re not looking at five years, ten years after infection.” In other words, no one knows what level of immunity is conferred in the long term; thus, it is scientifically de rigueur that such persons be vaccinated.

Fourth, (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33254499/).

“We discuss the potential underlying mechanisms including increases in adrenergic stimulation and oxidative stress leading to electrophysiological abnormalities that promote arrhythmias via non-reentrant and reentrant mechanisms. Given the interplay of multiple variables contributing to the increased arrhythmic risk, we advise avoidance of a facemask during high intensity exercise, or if wearing of a mask is mandatory, exercise intensity should remain low to avoid precipitation of lethal arrhythmias. However, we cannot exclude the possibility of an arrhythmic substrate even with low intensity exercise especially in those with established chronic cardiovascular disease in whom baseline electrophysiological abnormalities may be found. In short, this study has nothing to do with the false assertions by the author.

Fifth, here is but one study which confirms the efficacy of social distancing, Philadelphia, Pa. – July 23, 2020 – “Social distancing remains the most effective intervention that we have to reduce the spread of COVID-19, according to a new PolicyLab at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia (CHOP) study(link is external) published today in JAMA Network Open. The study, which was among the first to look at the effects of weather on COVID-19 transmission, found spring-like temperatures were associated with some reduction in the spread of the virus, but the beneficial impact of temperature was easily diminished when social distancing was not implemented, particularly in densely populated areas.”

Sixth, from the AP, 10-02-21, “Tens of millions of Americans have refused to get vaccinated, allowing the highly contagious delta variant to tear through the country and send the death toll from 600,000 to 700,000 in 3 1/2 months. Florida suffered by far the most death of any state during that period, with the virus killing about 17,000 residents since the middle of June. Texas was second with 13,000 deaths. The two states account for 15% of the country's population, but more than 30% of the nation's deaths since the nation crossed the 600,000 threshold.”

That about covers the ground. This letter is a lesson in how to reference valid scientific papers and journals and make utterly false statements about their content, easily revealing numerous logical fallacies and a tatterdemalion set of propaganda assertions which have no value in the matter at hand.

scarroll

The first article cited is referencing a scientific study of chickens.

The second one says this: antibody production, whether by vaccination or infection, does not ensure long-lasting immunity to COVID-19

The third concludes: We advise avoidance of a facemask during high intensity exercise.

Since the author can’t read past a headline, it pretty much explains the rest of the nonsense.

I am somewhat dismayed that the newspaper would bother to print such blathering misinformation.

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