Response to letter

Some thoughts crossed my mind as I read the letter “What in the world is going on here?”. That letter writer stated Governor Ducey ordered an 8 p.m. statewide curfew but a few exceptions were made. I agree with her statement – a few exceptions were made. Like the exception in Phoenix were looters were given free rein to destroy and steal city and private property. Or the exception in Scottsdale where a shopping mall was vandalized. Their illegal activity was allowed for several days. Perhaps the group peacefully assembled outside the Trumped Store were in violation of the curfew order but at least they did not destroy or steal.

The letter writer seemed anguished with the armed group of people outside the Trumped Store. Were you equally anguished at the destruction caused by the looters? Anguished at the rocks, bottles, fluids, bricks, etc. used by the looters?

I will not forget sacrifices made by the World War II generation. We can and should continually learn from these people. That letter writer said all Americans were “anti-fascists” at that time. Though I was not born during that timeframe, I am and will continue to be “anti-fascists” but please, do not confuse “anti-fascists” with Antifa. A quick internet search reveals that Antifa holds anti-authoritarian, anti-capitalist, anti-government views and that they have anarchist, communistic and socialistic ideologies.

Real world solutions? How about enforcing the Constitution of the United States and the Bill of Rights for ALL people? How about ALL people being held accountable for THEIR actions? How about respecting ALL people? How about teaching students that there is more than one side of the story?

Judy Sanchez,

Show Low

(24) comments

libertyminded

Vigilantes like these instigated violence in Albuquerque, they must not be welcomed or condoned on American streets. Arrest ALL armed Vigilantes after curfew!

Lee Bertay

That's right "liberty," antifa and blm rioters ARE terrorist criminals and therefore the curfew.

ArizAl

Obviously, Mrs. Sanchez is completely misinformed and mixed up. She doesn't explain how armed Trump supporters at the Trump store were going to stop any violence or looting that went on the valley 170 miles away. A more creditable explaination is that they were there to voice their opposition to the local residents and high school students 2 blocks away, that were peacefully protesting racism and unjust killings of Black Americans by some bad apple cops in law enforcement. The question is, why weren't all the other business in Show Low advised that there was a creditable threat? Why only the Trump store? The simple fact is that the police department. said there was no creditable threat, no truth to the rumor. But yet the Trumpers were so terrified of our local peaceful protesters with cardboard signs, that they had to pull out their firearms? Mrs Sanchez is also very misinformed about Antifa (Anti Fascism) people. As she stated Antifa is against authoritarianism, yes they are, so were our forefathers who wrote the constitution. They are anti- capitalists. Yes they are anti-capitalists that want to merge corporations and government into Fascism, so too, were the founders of our country concerned about the wealthy and corporations taking control of our established democracy. Mrs. Sanchez says, Antifa are anti- government. Crooked government yes, but the republican party, the White Supremists, the KKK, and other right wing extremists groups hate the government because it is used to do what it was created to do,"Provide and Promote for the General Welfare" of all Americans, minorities included. One has to wonder if Mrs. Sanchez were at Charlottesville,VA August 2017, would she be allied with the White Supremists, the KKK, the Nazis, shouting slogans like "Jews will not replace us!" waving the swistika and confederate flag. Or would she be allied with counterprotesters Antifa, the National Council of Churches, Local Resident protesters, Anti-racists.

As Jews prayed at a local synagogue, Congregation Beth Israel, men dressed in fatigues carrying semi-automatic rifles stood across the street, according to the temple's president, Nazi websites posted a call to burn their building. As a precautionary measure,Jewish congregants had removed their Torah scrolls and exited through the back of the building when they were done praying.

It is important that we reject attempts by republicans to claim equivalence between Antifa and the White Supremacist groups they oppose. Antifa rejects racism but may use unacceptable tactics. White supremacists use even more extreme violence to spread their ideologies of hate, to intimidate ethnic minorities, and undermine democratic norms. Right-wing extremists have been one of the largest and most consistent sources of domestic terror incidents in the United States for many years; they have murdered hundreds of people in this country over the last ten years alone. To date, there have not been any known antifa-related murders.

Fascist Nazis became a natural model for white-supremacist movements in the United States.The logic of white supremacy was similar: Hatreds became universalized through common archetypes. Jews were seen by white supremacists as capitalists undermining local businesses. Black Americans fleeing the South in the Great Migration were seen as taking away crucial labor. Catholics were seen as immigrants stealing American jobs.

Which side are you on?

Lee Bertay

Ohhh yeah - throw em all in the pot, make sure none of your armed extremist leftists are added, then sprinkle some Constitutional snips that make it look like it was all about The Welfare Nation and stir. But wait! Your Demrat legacy is in there - the KKK! Oh - don't worry - it will be unrecognizable with today's Cultural Revolution. Your Maoist allies have all the solutions for you.

2rusty

I'm on your side Judy. When everyone whose goal is to disrupt and destroy our society, businesses, and lives if THEY think it's justified is allowed free rein, the rest of us MUST stand up. Guarding a business before it's attacked is just common sense. The cops have rules to follow and if they allow a peaceful gathering, that's up to their discretion. We cannot allow mob rule.

libertyminded

I agree that we cannot allow mob rule, which is exactly why we should not tolerate ANY armed vigilantes after curfew.

Russ_in_WML

Al is as deranged as the Seattle mayor calling the siege of her city as a "summer of love".

Interesting at how demrats promote the vile racism of BLM and ANTIFA but chide those willing to protect a property locally from the same possible threat.

pioneerfamily

For the life of me I can't understand the logic of bringing an AR 15 to a street protest. Wearing a sidearm as personal protection is as old as Arizona has existed. A semi automatic long gun is designed to be used on targets 100 to 400 yards away. What on earth are these yahoos expecting to happen? They are not protecting anyone. THEY ARE THE THREAT. I'm afraid that what causes them to carry such a weapon in public is an unholy combination of low IQ, small genitals and an overactive, immature imagination. A very dangerous combination.

Lee Bertay

That's right! They just shoulda had a double barrel shotgun and fired a couple of blasts into the air.

ArizAl

pioneerfamily Right on! [thumbup][thumbup] ROTFLOL [lol][lol]

Russ_in_WML

Pioneer - wrong. Your assumption of long guns used only for long range shows how little you gun grabbers know. Armed law abiding citizens are not the threat.

Lee Bertay

Demrats are expurts about about those AR-74s and AK-15s.

pioneerfamily

I'm a registered Independent and I own an AR and an AK. I've owned firearms long before you two Yahoos were born. The ignorance of you two is staggering.

Russ_in_WML

Pioneer

No soldier, law enforcement officer, or law abiding gun owner would agree with your assumption of how a long gun is to be used. It’s laughable. Even more cringe worthy is the fact that you are but-hurt over law abiding armed citizens standing guard over a property threatened by criminals who would damage and destroy it. Your kind actually supports this.

Sickening.

ArizAl

As a life long gun owner, I worry more about the radical right wing extremists and their pulling out their semi-automatic firearms to fight an imaginary non-existent threat. That is the definination of the mental disorder, schizophrenia. The local citizens peaceful protesters 2 blocks away posed no threat to anyone with their cardboard signs. Moreover, what is especially true is that the Show low police Dept. stated there was no such threat to the rumor. Let's not overlook, the fact that the Trump store is a political enterprise,so one can safely conclude that all this was an exercise to intimidate voters with a delusional, dangerous reponse to a rumor. That is where we sane gun owners part with the schizos, we don't need to use our firearms to convince people of our political ideology. Obviously, the collateral damage done to the Show Low law enforcement by these schizophrenics is that they definitely don't believe that the Show Low police dept is capable of protecting it's citizens.

Lee Bertay

Well, for instance, the recent vandalism by the local Young Demrats against Pinetop businesses. Why don't you have pxllr sell your old rusty .22 at the next gunshow and get rid of that guilt? Your mob doesn't approve of you having that thing!

ArizAl

Next thing the republicans extremists Fascists will counter is that the Pinetop police dept. is incompetent, unable to protect it's citizens and that they need the armed Trump schizos to do the job of Pinetop's law enforcement.

Lee Bertay

Golly gosh that sounds scarey. While the security volunteers are probably busy working to support your social security check, it is minutely possible that they might help the Pinetop PD track down your demrat antifa wannabees there. You had better get comerade jaqui to get a bus and evacuate the pinetop demrats to the Seattle safe zone CHOP so that they can enjoy the summer of love marxist executions there.

Lee Bertay

You own an AR and an AK and you think you're older than us.

[whistling] Well good for you.

ArizAl

Pretty doubtful Lee, if you couldn't tell the difference between peaceful protesters in Show Low and imaginary looters, I don't think any law enforcement agency would entertain the idea of having schizophrenic right wing extremists on their volunteer list, especially when the police dept. told you the rumors were false and you still pulled out your military style firearms to fight the non-existent foe. Only in America can you find so many angry schophrenic republican extremists claiming to love their country, while hating almost everyone in it.

Lee Bertay

Well you just never know who's going to show and do what when you have all those "cute kids" coming to represent terrorist mobs like blm and antifa so it's best to be prepared, especially when you know that it is part of a traitorous plan.

ArizAl

Hummm, If you republicans are against "Black American's Lives Matter," it is simply because you republicans don't think that "Black American's Lives Do Matter". That is being a racist, non-Christian and anti-American. The same can be said about republicans being against Anti-Fascists. That means that republicans are Pro-Fascists which by defacto makes them Anti-Constitutional Democracy.

Lee Bertay

Delusional drivel. Good for your next Starbucks meeting with all the raised fists and dental gnashing.

ArizAl

Apperantly, Lee thinks that the lives of Black American citizens are expendable and don't matter. According to republicans and Lee Bertay, thinking otherwise, is delusional.

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