I know that I am not the only one who is tired of no food on the shelves of the local food stores.

Is there a reason why this area cannot get a Kroger store to come to our area?

Our community is fast growing and we do not have the grocery stores to support this growth. I'm sick of not being able to buy what I need from local stores. There are "buy local" signs everywhere, however, if you have nothing to sell locally the population cannot really shop locally can they?

We have decided to start taking cool chests to Globe so we can shop at the Fry's there. Yes. Globe has a Fry's, yet all we get is Safeway and Walmart with no groceries on the shelves.

Can't get stockers?

Well, hire them at a fair wage for 40 hours a week with some benefits and you won't have stocker shortages. The powers that be cannot stop this place from growing. We are getting out-of-towners buying up real estate here like crazy. Think there is a grocery shortage now? Just wait a few more weeks until the glut of summer residents arrive.

There will really be no groceries then.

Oh, and I forgot to mention Eddie's in Pinetop, but who can afford to shop there on a regular basis, regardless of how great their meat is?

We need a Kroger grocery store. I'm not the only one who feels this way. I hear and talk with others who have the same concerns and complaints that I do. Come on, White Mountains! Let's get at least one Kroger market in the area.

My husband and I came from Bullhead City. That community is not much larger than this one, spread out over several small towns and also has summer-winter residents, yet it boasts two Safeway markets, two Smith's markets and two super Walmart stores, as well as a Target, a Kohls and a Bed, Bath and Beyond, just to name a few of the stores that operate there.

Are you really going to tell the community that we cannot support the same? Are you going to tell the community that the reason we don't have more markets is because the residents of our community are too "lazy" to work (I heard that too)? I don't buy it. Not for a second.

We have plenty of people who will work if they are paid fairly and receive benefits. If the corporate entities in this town can't treat the residents of the community who work for them fairly, why should anyone want to work for them and why should we support them? I'm just saying.

Cecily Preusser,

Lakeside

(20) comments

fishinguy

Now that the Forest is closed the shelf will have more food on it. See the flat lander campers are now not able to come and camp so the self should be fuller for you. Not sure how long you have been here but an addition of another grocery store has been needed for over 30 years. Agree this region needs more shopping options.

johndoe

Sorry but adding another grocery store won't solve any "shortages" we may be seeing. The same truck routes that get closed due to fires, accidents and yes even snow will keep a Kroger truck from arriving up here just the same as a Safeway or Wal-Mart truck. The last thing we need is more "Big Box" stores sending their corporate cash off the mountain. Not sure how much food you need but I have never had an issue getting all the things I require every time I visit the stores up here...well aside from the time when the idiots were hording toilet paper.

cakeman

When I go into Walmart, it reminds me of living in Fort Lauderdale when a hurricane was coming in. Are the goods backordered, or no one to stock the shelves, and the stockroom is full?

2rusty

Most of us live here because we like having a small community. If you like city-living, that's great, please just go find one rather than trying to change what we locals love about our area.

Lib&Proud

I don't see how getting a Kroger grocery store is going to affect your "small community" living. That went down the drain when you let Walmart in which wiped out all of your local "mom and pop" retailers. Bullhead City is not exactly a metropolis, and that is where we came from seven years ago to retire near our family. This community is not going to remain small. The exodus from the Valley has already begun. Real estate has skyrocketed, and median priced housing almost no longer exists here. I love a small town. Born and raised in Buckeye when it was a sleepy little farming community. Had we wanted to live in a city, we would have moved to one. Having a Kroger store is not going to make the town grow, all the people moving here are making the town grow.

smartguy

I have emailed Kroger.com/hc/help many times asking them to consider putting a Fry's food store here. I have had several friends do the same. I ask all of you to join in and contacting Kroger for the same reasons!!!!

RFranklin

I suspect that many in the city councils in the area are not in support of increasing expansion of business in our area. Many want to maintain a "small town" perception of the area. We have a lot of area near the airport where we could expand business without cutting down lots of trees in our area. We need people in our city government who will support more investment by corporations to bring in more stores and restaurants. If you need dress clothing, you either have buy on the internet or go to Phoenix. We have too many second hand stores and not enough places where we can really buy necessary products.

Jordan

I've lived here my whole life and have never been hungry. If you want to live in a city in the mountains then move to Flagstaff. We like a small town, not a big city, that's why we're here.

Lib&Proud

Like I said, having a Kroger store is not going to make your town grow. All the people moving here are. You can't stop it once it starts, and people are getting lots of money for their real estate. They aren't selling to one another, they are selling to people from the Valley, California, Oregon, all those places where people want to get away from the city and live in a small town, thereby making the town grow. We can have as many fast food restaurants, car washes and thrift stores as possible, but not another food store?

ronzim

I find the idea of maintaining a “small” town atmosphere rather interesting. Just how small qualifies for that title? I imagine that everyone has their own definition. I wonder just how someone can persist in resisting or resenting growth when they had no such apparent concern when they moved in. The attitude seems to be, “O.K. I’m here, no more growth.”

che guevara

I wonder how folks such as Cecily are going to fare when the real food shortages arrive in our communities . The effects of the regional droughts and flooding along with this past year's late freezes have yet to be realized in the food supply chain . This however will become noticeable in the coming year , and far beyond . More so , regardless of one's beliefs and views on weather phenomenon or even weather manipulation for societal restructuring , the abundance once enjoyed in the developed world is undergoing a rapid change which will make the summer of 2021 seem like the good old days in the not - to - distant future .

It is also important to understand that here in America we have what is known as the " just in time " food supply chain system , whereby provisions and goods are shipped directly from the food producers to the retail level on an " as needed " basis . This supply chain system was instituted in the aftermath of the Second World War and refined in such places as occupied Japan and Europe . This is one reason why supermarkets such as the Kroeger's , Fry's , Albertson's or what have you , are reluctant to invest in small isolated communities with specific demographics and generally lower income levels , as the logistics versus the competition and local economy often make such ventures highly questionable . The seasonal nature of these communities which still rely far too heavily upon tourism only serves to further raise doubts as the the economic prudence of such expansion up here into this neck of the woods . Furthermore , top management of these businesses is fully aware of the food supply crisis that is looming on the horizon , which further makes expansion into areas such as our communities an even bigger risk . Further , the supermarkets do not outright purchase all of the foods for sale in their stores , but rather they purchase them on credit hoping to sell it to you , the consumer , before these items pass expiration date , thereby enabling them to make a profit . As credit tightens due to economic conditions it becomes riskier for supermarkets to stock shelves , especially with all of the societal and economic upheavals we have been experiencing in the past year or so , such as the COVID episode .

We also must consider that China is purchasing many food commodities from America as China is in the midst of extreme food shortages due to their ever abundant population , burgeoning military , and the regional flooding and drought conditions they have been dealing with . Hungry people are not polite , and if pushed they tend to strike out at those who still have more than them . So then , there is much more at play here than simply not enough food choices and / or food supplies to feed everyone's gaping maws . This is a global crisis , which as history has repeatedly illustrated , ultimately culminates in only one way . Be thankful for what you have got .... at least for the time being .

Hairy

Higher wages and benefits for unskilled labor is a pipe dream. If you want a good wage you must have a marketable skill, period. Flipping burgers or stocking grocery shelves doesn't qualify you to make a salary equal to someone who took the time and effort to learn a skill.

Lib&Proud

Really? So the people who perform these jobs of "flipping burgers" and "stocking shelves" are not entitled to a living wage and benefits, is that it? You think everyone should have a college education? Or maybe everyone should have a specific skill set such as a mechanic or plumber or what have you to be a valuable member of the community? The people who perform these jobs are valuable members of the work force and should be treated fairly. The idea that an individual did attend college or vocational school should just get used to living in poverty with no health care doesn't fly. Not by a long shot.

ronzim

Hairy, on the other hand, has it wrong. He fails to comprehend the math involved, and the brutal consequences of an income scale wrought mostly to advantage the wealthy and the big corporations. No one suggests that “Flipping burgers or stocking grocery shelves doesn't qualify you to make a salary equal to someone who took the time and effort to learn a skill.” To begin with, it is not salary, but annual income which demarcates a household from poverty or low quality of life. Second, the purpose of increasing the annual incomes of the poor is not to equate them with wealthy professionals or other prosperous persons. The purpose is to close the enormous gap in annual incomes between the top and the bottom which does not reduce the earnings of high-income households.

Such an increase will increase prices; however, the increase will be spread among so many consumers that the effect on one customer is negligible, say, an increase from $7.50 for your favorite burger to $7.70. It is also true that some jobs will be lost, but the change in the workforce will be trivial, if noticed at all. The impact on those workers laid off can easily be subsumed within the overall growth pattern and offset by training and placement programs.

Thus, closing some of the gap for the lowest paid workers is highly desirable because it will lift millions from poverty and increase consumption by the degree of increase in their incomes.

Lib&Proud

Here, here!

fishinguy

Just ask Safeway if they did not make bank this holiday weekend! They did. If you do not like it here leave or try and get the next grocery store to come in and share the wealth. I enjoy competition.

Hairy

So if everyone can earn the same amount of money and have the same benefits why would anyone bother to learn a skill or get and education? Will the burger flippers then be our doctors?For many of us getting an education in order to have a better life required hard work and sacrifice, why bother in the future you all want.

pxllr

Hairy, read up on the subject of universal basic income. It addresses many of your concerns. We learned, quite pointedly how important those burger flippers are to our survival. Without those burger flippers and stockers and delivery people, would any of us have survived the past year? They deserve to be compensated based on their worth. Stock brokers did not really contribute to our survival, but delivery people did.

If a job is worth having done, it is worth paying the person doing it enough to make it worth their time and labor. One critical issue, is remove healthcare from being tied to a job. Other countries have been able to manage this, why is it beyond the USA to figure it out? The answer is of course greed. Greed where a few people control over 50% of the resources of this country. They make more in a few minutes than many of us make in a year.

libertyminded

I want any store that does not let employees smoke near the entrances like Safeway does.

ronzim

Che has this right. The catastrophic impact of global overpopulation cannot be overstated in any domain of human life. Climate change is but one of those.

Long-term forecasts for the number of acres in production show no increase. In fact, the percent of arable land in the U.S. has declined from 47% just forty years ago to 44% now. This decline will continue due to the removal of farmlands from production for non-agricultural development, now aggravated by desertification. Moreover, while yields per acre have increased over the past half century, they are now approaching the limits set by the laws of physics.

One forecast shows that the number of days with highs above 90 degrees F. will rise dramatically, even under the most generous models of change. This not only means that increased stress on plants will reduce yields (right now, whole fields are being lost) but water loss and precipitation patterns will mean less rainfall and greater demands on water resources then already exist.

Increases in the number and severity of storms will cause ever-increasing damage to both crops and livestock. The degree of food shortages will necessitate plummeting exports as more and more of our domestic production must be used at home. This will result in an increase in food prices and thereby price an increasing number of food-marginal households downward into the food-insecure category while more and more families become malnourished. It will thereby become increasingly difficult to educate children who are nutritionally deprived, with concomitant negative impacts on their future employment.

Our inefficient practices are most dramatically illustrated in meat consumption. Farmed animals consume the equivalent of 5550 kcal/p/d in total. However, they return just 594 kcal/p/d to the human food chain in the form of meat. Thus, we waste about 90% of excellent human food products by feeding them to animals instead of the world’s hungry, and we do that at a greatly increased cost which channels much of the meat to those with the incomes to afford it.

Nearly half of all the water used in the United States goes toward raising animals for food. It takes more than 2,400 gallons of water to produce just 1 pound of meat. Only 25 gallons of water are required to grow 1 pound of wheat. You can save more water by not eating a pound of meat than you can by not showering for six months!

While there are subsidiary causes of these outcomes, the main impetus, by far, comes from overpopulation. This is easy to prove: Run any of these numbers for a global population of one million and see the results. The world population clock shows the current population at 7.9 billion and increasing by nearly 80 million per year. At a nominal 2000 calories per day that means we must get about 16,000,000,000,000 calories per day (12.8 trillion minimum) to the plates of every human just to maintain a healthy population. And we must do this despite the growing limitations described above.

This is insanity and suicidal. I can only conclude that the species Homo sapiens is one of evolution’s failures.

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